Hannelore, it's still hard for me to imagine how hurt you are when I see your smiling face in every post.

Your posts are so very wise. I especially enjoyed reading the one about the trees, garden, cage, etc. It will definitely be symbolic of your future because you are choosing to feel loved in, or out of the marriage. Look at it that way. I'm just praying it's IN because I still hear love for him in your voice.

Also, don't you just love your boys? How sweet is that?

There's a great book called "Lies at the Alter" that might make interesting reading. It's by the therapist that used to be on Oprah.

Whenever we are in a relationship and it's having issues, we also need to work on ourselves. I'm happy that you are both going first to the counselor and then seeing what will happen from there. Whatever happens, it's a great opportunity to get to know yourself better!

Hannelore, you dear, I'm moved by your ladder analogy, yes it would be nice to view issues from that perspective.

Yes, I've been to the Bodensee while living in Germany early '90s. I went with the Navigators, a Christian organization that ministered to civilians and military overseas USAFE. I was lucky to be involved with the singles group and travel along to retreats.

Speaking of retreats, praying that your homefront is peaceful. Again, stick to your guns gal!

Hah! Dotsie maybe I should change the picture...that one is about three years old anyway. ...And the true me has aged about 30 years this past week. Hey, it's one way to get compliments about my agility for my age! hee hee...

I'll check that book out Casey. Anne, your well wishes mean so much to me.

Then again, Mustang, …what the ladder analogy concerns…why do so many astronauts get spaced out?

I am sticking to my guns. I was getting weak last night, but then went up and read through my journal. That sure strengthens me.

"I am strong...I am woman.... um, how does that song go? And who sang it again?

I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again

CHORUS
Oh yes I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

You can bend but never break me
'cause it only serves to make me
More determined to achieve my final goal
And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul

CHORUS

I am woman watch me grow
See me standing toe to toe
As I spread my lovin' arms across the land
But I'm still an embryo
With a long long way to go
Until I make my brother understand

Oh yes I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman
Oh, I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong

FADE
I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am woman....

Helen Reddy 1972.

Angel a chara...she wrote it at the time when Sandy Posie was in the charts with 'Born a Woman' and the other one!!! 'I Feel Pretty' from 'My Fair Lady'

As one could imagine it also became a torch song for the womens movement at the time.

My personal favourite is Bette Midler, Goldie Hawn and Dianne Keaton doing there versin of 'you don't own me'...from the movie 'The first wives club'...it is class and funny,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiDg0gV468c
Popea

Helen Reddy sang the song "I am Women"

I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back an' pretend
'Cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again

Oh yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to
I can do anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

You can bend but never break me
'Cause it only serves to make me
More determined to achieve my final goal
And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'Cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul

Oh, yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to
I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

I am woman watch me grow
See me standing toe to toe
As I spread my lovin' arms across the land
But I'm still an embryo
With a long, long way to go
Until I make my brother understand

Oh, yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to
I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman

Oh, I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong

I am woman
I am invincible
I am strong
I am woman

A good song for most of us these days, especially for those struggling. Be strong!
Kate

lol.....we must have posted at the same time....Kate

Wow, someone is much quicker than me. Maybe delete my lyrics
Kate

No no , hahaha, don't delete...I HEAR you two singing in two part harmony!
Thanks gals...I can always count on you.

Yes I was definatley singing in harmony. Another favorite of mine is Donna Summers song "I will survive"