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#76734 - 09/09/05 03:40 AM Summer of Love Revisited
Pattyann Offline
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Registered: 07/08/05
Posts: 245
Loc: Ocala Florida
I read this story on OUR Voices and I was so sad
I remember the times when love was supposedly free and the consequences seemed ever so unbearable. On the intellectual side of me, the feminist, the woman who understands that for a young girl abortion seems the only answer- that side of me says no one should be forced to go through an unsafe dangerous abortion
But the other side of me who carried children under her heart and mourned the ones who never made it to birth says that abortion could never be my answer
I don't judge the ones who did what they needed to do and I believe the right to the say over their own bodies should never be legislated by any government
Thankfully I never had to face that

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#76735 - 09/09/05 03:54 AM Re: Summer of Love Revisited
chatty lady Offline
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Registered: 02/24/04
Posts: 20267
Loc: Nevada
I truly believe this next statement and have been critized for saying it many times yet it is my own personal belief....In this or any situation a person might sit quietly and ask themselves. What would Jesus do? This question if asked and answered honestly can help one make the right decision....Too often 'right' is not the consideration, 'convenince' is and that is wrong any way you look at it....But like Pattyann I have never been faced with this particular decision either but I do know the only answer for me.

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#76736 - 09/09/05 05:35 PM Re: Summer of Love Revisited
Dotsie Offline
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Registered: 07/09/08
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Loc: Maryland
I'm glad to see women are reading OUR VOiCES and discussing the stories. Thank you. I truly believe they give our generation of women a voice. We may not believe/relate to all of them, but they are real for the women who wrote them and they do allow others to see what it was like to grow up decades ago.

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#76737 - 09/09/05 06:35 PM Re: Summer of Love Revisited
Dianne Offline
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Registered: 05/24/04
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Loc: Arizona
Could someone please put the link to this story? Why can't I find it?

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#76738 - 09/10/05 01:55 AM Re: Summer of Love Revisited
chatty lady Offline
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Dianne when you first click onto the Boomer site up in the right hand corner is a box with the logo of the 3 gals in it and the words OUR VOICES. Click it and when it opens scroll down to the list of stories and have a ball reading.

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#76739 - 09/10/05 04:04 AM Re: Summer of Love Revisited
Princess Lenora Offline
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Registered: 11/11/04
Posts: 3503
Loc: Colorado
Wow, that was the first of the Our Voices that I've read. That story is so poignant and appropos to the times. Dotsie, the introduction to our voices is great. However, I didn't understand the question: "What's wrong with our minds?" What is that referring to? Do Boomer women think that something is wrong with their minds? Now, my husband has called me psycho on occasion...LLL

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#76740 - 09/10/05 06:51 PM Re: Summer of Love Revisited
Dotsie Offline
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Lynn, I'm glad to hear that you read it. That is really the basis for the book.

When I mentioned "our minds" I was referring to depression and all the prescription drugs we are being dealt to manage our issues.

On a personal note, I was referring to my scattered brain that continues to become more scattered with age. Is it overload, or is it menopause?

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#76741 - 09/10/05 11:26 PM Re: Summer of Love Revisited
leigha Offline
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 211
Loc: british columbia
Ladies

I'd like to mention something Dotsie. Depression and the various states of our mind are based on energies. Energy constantly changes. When one energy touches another, both energies are affected. In the mind, various chemicals are affected by energy. So depression is actually a depressed state of energy. But where did it come from. The mind. We are all made up of various energies and are danced around by the energies of others and what is around us, whether it is circumstances, or drama.

The mind itself is also affected by energy as is every aspect of our bodies, our spirits, our hearts, our souls and our physicality.

What we put in our mind, every single thought, is a piece of energy that either benefits the whole of us or doesn't benefit the whole of us.

Dotsie with regard to being 'scattered' and attributing that to age, it is really just the mind being affected by too many energies at once, and the mind thinking it is in charge when in fact our spirit is in charge.

Alot of the time we listen to what is in the mind, its fears, its worries, its conflict over time(that's a big one) when in fact if we look at time, which is our biggest conflict as we get 'older', not as linear but as vertical the worry stops and the mind calms down because it is in the now. The now is actually the spiritual vibration that we are vibrating in in the moment. The mind has actually ceased to exist because in essence we are not experiencing the energy of the mind.

There is only one moment in time that builds...and that is the now. There is no future except for the now because we are always in the now. In fact, the mind understanding future as we are taught, as a linear line where we have only 80 or so years of our lives to live in, which is also a fallacy, actually promotes the degredation of the human body because we have actually made the decision that this is the truth, therefore the energy within us has to degrade to a lower vibration for different systems in our bodies to degrade. (It is how we think that affects matter). W

When in fact, if we look at vertical time, where the only thing that exists is the now, then we are not causing stress on the body. It is a state where one moves into 'no mind' because in fact the mind is just a receptacle that holds information and is constantly trying to sort it out looking for answers, when in fact the answers we are looking for are actually in the form of inspired consciousness which exists at a higher plain within our spiritual energies and it does not exist in the mind. So, inevitably the mind is in constant conflict.

Thus, real thought, inspired thought which lies outside the mind is the antidote to a happy uncomplicated life.

The mind's job is to listen to the spirit and by listening to the spirit, all of the fear goes, all of the angst goes because the mind itself finally realizes that it doesn't have to come up with all the answers, because inevitably it isn't the mind's job to do that. The only job of the mind is to secure the data from the spirit and follow the spirit's direction.

And when I say spirit, I'm not talking about religion. The spirit within everyone has a greater consciousness than the mind because it vibrates at a greater speed. In other words its particles are moving faster than the particles of the mind.

The spiritual aspect with regard to consciousness is relative to inspired thinking, a place of 'no mind' where you are in the 'zone' as it were, while you are in the 'doing' at the same time.

This is a place of no time. In this place the body does not feel stress. In fact it is experiencing a blissful energy that feeds the QI, or life force within the body.

It is our mind's that deplete our life force and eventually the mind itself because we are not taught any spiritual principles with regard to how the spirit and mind work. We are taught 'religious principles about the spirit' but that is not relative to the truth about how the spirit actually works.

I thought I'd add this...with regard to the word 'sin' because alot of people get hung up on it because they've been lambasted by churches over the sin in the body etc.... which is what causes guilt, more fear, anger, etc.

Our bodies only exist because of energy and the energy we allow into our bodies. Aside from the life force we were given energy comes in in different ways, through the food we eat, through our thoughts, and through our actions, our emotions and feelings. Remember, we are all spiritual beings, which means energy beings, the body in itself is just matter which is affected only by the mind, the spirit, the soul, our thoughts, our feelings and our emotions.

If we can sort out who we are, the energy and quality of energy in our minds, our hearts, our spirits and our emotions and our feelings by being aware of the thoughts that we let into our minds (and by the way, different types of thoughts exist on different planes of energy, all thoughts having different energies.

WHAT TO WATCH OUT FOR

If we're tired, or have overdone it, our energy will drop and we are susceptible to a LOWER plane of thought, a lower vibration of thought BECAUSE OUR ENERGY CANNOT REACH THE SPIRITUAL PLANE OF ENERGY, which consists of inpsired thought and those thoughts containing a great deal of QI or life force which actually feeds our bodies.

How to stay in the upper vibrations of clear thought that is brought in through the spirit requires balance, good food, clean water, proper excercise and most importantly proper sleep and rest, otherwise we get danced around by a plane of energy and we don't even recognize that that is happening.

Do not berate yourself if you get 'scattered' etc. Intention and attention come from the 'spirit'.....build your intention and keep your attention focused. IE even if you are just eating an apple keep your attention on the apple, being aware of intention and attention will help you stay out of the mind dancing around, and listen to your body when it is tired, rest and your focus will become stronger.

Overload...that is a word that deals with the mind's fear of not being able to cope. To deal with the word 'overload' go to the moment and erase everything on your days to-do list and feel what you or your body wants to do in the moment. Lists come from the mind, the moment comes from the heart and spirit.

I hope I haven't overdone it here Dotsie...just wanted to help. So many of us are trying to live up to the magazine articles on how to have it all and cope as well. It isn't about 'having it all'(that's the mind's desire) as magazine articles state...it's about living only in the moment for only in the moment do we find peace and God and what we are to do in that given moment.

We may be given goals and our spirits may direct us but it isn't for us to run ourselves into the ground to accomplish our mission, it is for the moment to direct us. The mind thinks otherwise, it wants to take over and plan everything and give us lists so it can feel comfortable. When in fact it just makes us feel miserable. The moment directs us, not the mind. Why, because the mind has no concept of time. It only understands linear time which it has been taught. It doesn't understand the moment because when we are in the moment the mind ceases to exist because we are now in our spiritual bodies energy which is directing us.

You have a lovely heart Dotsie, sometimes its best to just enjoy the moment and let the mind go. The greatest rest comes in not listening to the mind.

Believe me, I've been there. Driven like you wouldn't believe. It took me many years to let go which I had to do to start the healing process.
With love
Leigha

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#76742 - 09/10/05 11:47 PM Re: Summer of Love Revisited
leigha Offline
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Registered: 02/21/05
Posts: 211
Loc: british columbia
My hand hit the wrong button before I could go over this.

With regard to 'if we can sort out who we are, the energy, the energy and quality of energy in our minds, our heart, our spirits and our emotions
and our feelings by being aware of our thoughts that we let into our minds( and by the way, different types of thoughts exist in different planes of energies,all thoughts having different energies) we would have what the mind considers as more control over our lives.

What in fact we are really doing is letting go of control. By understanding the energies that are dancing us around we just won't play the old game anymore.

Also, with regard to 'The mind's job is to listen to the spirit and by listening to the spirit all of the fear goes, all of the angst goes because the mind itself finally realizes that it doesn't have to come up with all of the answers because inevitably it isn't the mind's job to do that', we have just trained ourselves to do that by excercising what we call 'memory'.

Every moment is new under the sun and every moment has a spiritual answer that does not exist within memory.

So I wouldn't worry too much about memory. The moment is the only thing that exists. When we finally trust the spirit and the moment, short term memory, long term memory isn't really necessary because all answers come in the moment and when in a spiritualized vibration consciousness just exists and is available. (That sounds rather radical doesn't it). When you study energy, it isn't, its just physics that thinks out of the box.

With regard to 'the only job of the mind is to secure the data from the spirit and follow the spirit's direction', that only happens if the mind recognizes the spirit and thus becomes 'spiritualized' which just means that the mind has raised its vibration to match the vibration of the spirit.

The are many vibrations that govern the mind. The mind is a delicate instrument which needs further study for this world to finally come into peace. Because in essence, the world is a product of millions of minds operating at different vibrations.

The world is just the product of the mind and not the product of the spirit and that is the reason why we have war, internally and externally.

For peace to reign we need to understand more fully the nature of vibration.

With love
Leigha

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#76743 - 09/12/05 05:20 AM Re: Summer of Love Revisited
Princess Lenora Offline
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Registered: 11/11/04
Posts: 3503
Loc: Colorado
Hi Dotsie, I haven't read Leigha's response yet, but I will later this evening when I get my carton of ice cream for my "read along." For now, I must say that I would think that the scattered mind is more about being overloaded. You see, when I was going through chemo, I experienced a brain fog. Actually, it was called chemo brain. The chemicals affected both my logical thinking and my creativity. Now that it's been 2 years off chemo, I can feel my brain activity returning to clarity. So, based on this brief example, I would say that for me the scattered is not so much about menopause as it is about being unable to focus due to having too much information and too much to do and too much I want to do. I think we expect too much from ourselves, especially when, in your case, you have children, a recent death in the family, the launching of this site and all its various forms and forums. Dotsie, I'm not saying you can't handle it and that's why you feel scattered, I am saying we expect ourselves to handle so much and then we get scattered. My mind is in better shape now then in my twenties, when I was overwhelmed with trauma. Oh, I just remembered, I AM on anti-depressants which bring about clarity and the ability to cope, something I didn't have in my twenties. So, the question, "What's wrong with our minds" really threw me. I've spent a life-time learning that nothing is "wrong" with me and my mind, but now I see where you were coming from. Love and Light, Lynn

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