Wasn't talking down to anyone. And apologize if it sounded that way. Was just trying to explain why I said what I first said and where I came by that opinion. Don't remove yourself. Discussions are fun. Isn't that what forums are all about, anyhow? When the BLM moved those 400 cows, it's report they lost 100 plus cows; some calves were orphaned; etc. I just said what was being reported, Ellemm.