okay smartie pants!! get a few artichokes, steam the heck out of 'em, pull out the pointy things, strip off the "meat", add some cream cheese, some onion (finely diced), and some shredded cheese. mix it up and serve it on either toast points or crackers. a little yummy for earlier in the day! and by the way. you grandfather was one of the neatest people i have ever known in my life. at a seminar about seven years ago i was asked to name a person that truly made an unforgetable mark in my life and mr. doc was the first person that came to me...