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orchid, I appreciate your point of view. I especially enjoyed reading what you have to say about women who need to get a life outside of their grown children. I was always so grateful for my mom and dad because after I married, I never felt pressure to be or act a certain way for them. They always enjoyed our company when we were around, but never put pressure on us to do things with them or visit a certain night of the week, etc. I hope to set that same example for my grown children.

Oh, and two of my chldren are Asian, so one day if they marry a caucasian, I may get to see what their children look like.




Yea, guess you have to see how future unfolds for your 2 adopted kids. Which reminds me of a different topic, I will post elsewhere later today or tomorrow.

As for mothers with grown children who need to get a life outside of children... I was a little amazed when an employee in my dept. said that she doesn't travel because she's been busy.

Well, I guess..with grown children??? I said to her: "But you have a car". She doesn't even drive into Vancouver. She lives about 20 kms. out in the suburbs. It's strange for me to hear this, when I don't have a car but have travelled.

We live in a beautiful part of Canada here on the Pacific coast. She's born in British Columbia, lived in Vancouver for 25 years of her life, but has not visited any of the Gulf islands (only 2 hr. ferry ride away) , etc.
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